POWIP Piece of Work In Progress

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   meep
   November 27th, 2009 - 07:47

   What people forget is that no one is forced to be a member of the Church. We ain’t Scientology, people. You are free to leave.

   And there is a whole branch of Christianity founded on disagreeing with the Pope: Protestantism. If you don’t believe in the Magisterium, maybe you should look into one of these other flavors. I’m sure you’ll find something that will satisfy you.

   Trying to cast yourself as more Catholic than the Pope doesn’t even begin to make sense.

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   Pablo
   November 27th, 2009 - 08:23

   I mark the commencement of extreme douchebaggery at about 2:50. Chrissy sets up the “If you were a Congressman…” strawman and rides it like His Little Pony for the next 9 minutes, as though it were 1. a fact and 2. relevant.
   I was hoping Tobin would note that he’s about as likely to be a Congressman as Chrissy is to be a Mensa member or MVP of the NBA.

   Chrissy’s been hanging out with Larry O’Donnell for too long.

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   Meep
   November 27th, 2009 - 11:02

   Btw, Dan, I think a lot of the bishops are not all that much on the pro-life boat [and anti-divorce, anti-fornication, anti-adultery, etc etc.]

   Someone asked why bishops hadn’t cracked down on this behavior in the last few decades and I said 1. some bishops and clergy will not criticize Democrats at all and 2. it was some clergy that enabled the whole “privately opposed” dodge to begin with.

   Some bishops are enamored of such groups like ACORN, and are into liberation theology [no matter how illicit]. The thing that’s keeping them in the Church, of cours e, is the Pope putting up with it and them not wanting to lose their status.

   Anyway, there’s a reason Dante put religious leaders in some of the deepest circles of the Inferno. They ought to know better, and they lead a lot of people into error by their acts or lack of action.

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4. 

   Cowboy
   November 27th, 2009 - 19:51

   Dan and others:

   I read through the comments over there, and I have a serious question: From where do you think the ignorance behind those comments comes? Most of my friends are Catholic and I teach at a Catholic university, so I just don’t see that kind of unthinking bigotry.

   Is it the official position of some Protestant denominations? Surely, because religion of any kind is verboten in public schools, they don’t teach it there. So where does shit like this come from:

   “…you guys truly do have a completely separate and unbiblical religion.”

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   Dan Collins
   November 27th, 2009 - 20:09

   Yes, it’s the official position of numerous fundamentalist Protestant denominations.

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6. 

   Bob Reed
   November 27th, 2009 - 20:26

   meep,
   I think you’ll fond that Benedict is going about cracking down on both Heresys and also schismatic undertones withing the church.

   Here on Long Island, one of the convents associated with my church is among the first to be investigated as part of a 3 year inquisition; all driven by ad hoc commentary at a conference last summer that related to dissatisfaction over the lack of movement on the issue of ordaining women-comments overheard and communicated back to Rome!

   Now, that’s balanced by my own Diocese’s Bishop Murphy who was among thise that were calling for more understanding over Obamacare’s possible abortion clauses, since the overall package was desireable in the name of “social justice”…

   I don’t know how a guy like him could become Bishop of a Diocese full of predominantly off-the-boat Micks and Guineas that are not the least bit schismatically disposed…

   I think that we’ll see the church become far less flexible and tolerant of these schismatic and heretical players and ideological compromises with political forces in the future. Benedict XVI is hard core and very conservative, he also researched and wrote what officially became the church’s position on liberation theology under John Paul II, and I’m certain is of the opinion that American Catholics should, “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s…”

   And isn’t into any compromises.

   All the best

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   Arlo McPherson
   November 27th, 2009 - 20:35

   Chris Matthews is God.

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     guinsPen
     November 27th, 2009 - 20:48

     Axel McRodlikker weeps.

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