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Since breast cancer is increasing generally, many are trying to track the importance of certain risk factors at the population level. http://www.the-actuary.org.uk/698029

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One thing it does do, seeing how you didn’t read it, is highlight the number of false positives in all forms of testing.

The AHRQ report doesn’t address cancer treatment, it addresses testing, knuckle head. And Medicare covers all women, much like the goal of Health Care Reform. This seems to be lost on big thinkers like Meep Troll and you – all women, as in every woman is a mother, daughter, sister of someone and they deserve to be tested and treated equally.

There is no market price for treatment when it’s your Mom, and there should be no gold-digging insurance companies differentiating treatment based on how many gold coins one has in there pocket. I’m pretty sure Meep Troll hasn’t seen any other country’s health care system – I wage she lied. She’s read about them – from Rush Limbaugh.com!

Meep Tool might be impressed with the quality of care in, oh, say, Canada, Sweden, Israel, if she actually saw it firsthand and/or had been treated by doctors from those – SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST-EVoOoL!!! – countries, but she’s a fraud, a tool, a liar.

Death Panels – whoever parrots that instantly gives away the fact they’re a slobbering waterhead.

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I read the links, and many more doctors are questioning the decision of the panel than are members of the same body.

And I wouldn’t dream of challenging the facts of your own mother’s treatment, only point out that it all occurred before this panels pronouncement. Sadly, others may not recieve the same level of care she did; especially if Obamacare becomes the law of the land…

You’re not seeing the forest for the trees, Podnuh; and I’m less running covr than trying to get you to step outside of your own frame and see the greater picture…

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Just like you ran cover for racist Carin and racist Duuuuh-Dar, now you’re runnning cover for this wingered twin-tootered clown.

She furiously back-pedaled because I pounded her rabid wingered snout to the point she, in effect, said that both gov’t and insurance co.s approach health care on a cost benefit basis.

Again, you don’t read.

You’re a hopelessly manipulated tool, and a coward, frankly. Nobody wants to cheat the mothers, sisters, daughters out of necessary breast cancer treatment – not Barack Obama, not anyone in the government, not anyone anywhere.

Medicare paid my Mom’s bills and so did Unum. I’d have to physically make you pay a price if to my face you went on lying that Medicare didn’t or that her and her doctor didn’t have ever option made available to them by Medicare. You’re a liar. You’re a cheap ungrateful scumbag. You don’t deserve this country.

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You are soputing occurances from an alternate level of reality or some other fictional reality.

She never resorted to political hackery. She did a cost-benefit example for illustrative purposes, noting a priori that she was using made-up-values in a simplified model. And she never “impugned” any doctors or other panel memebers, but rightly questioned their motivations; especially in light of the far greater number of physicians who questioned their professional acumen in doing so, orders of magnitude greater than those on the panel…

You’re just upset because of the inconvenient timing of this ridiculous reccomendation; and how it will become part of Obama’s healthcare Waterloo…

Suck it up! Your boy screwed the pooch! Get used to it, he’s gonna do it a lot more; because he’s a loooooooser! like Jimmy Carter-weak as effin’ water, full of bad ideas to boot…

Stop taking your frustation out on others; stop the lies!

Everything meep said was measured and reasonable. You can’t point to any specifics, just the usual snark; so I reject your cartoonish objection…

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Meep troll started off with her feathered chicken suit on spewing political-hack bullshit. I would bet she didn’t even read the reports she was commenting on, merely hoping to be a r-wing cool girl, note her links to hotair and Sarah “Queef Nuts” Palin.

Then she got knocked to the ground and tried a cost benefit analysis take, never addressing that a cost benefit can’t be done on self-exams for they have no cost. The costs are, obviously, the trauma and follow-up care for false positives.

Meep troll impugns the motives and credentials of the doctors involved in the research and, frankly, all research physicians with her wittle implied “there only academic doctors,” you know, not the ones who actually know anything. Too bad for Meep troll that it’s easy to Google to background of the doctors involved in the AHRQ. Many own breasts [tooters!] and graduated and practiced in the finest medical facilities in America.

Hers is typical of overly political know-nothings and right-wing nutjobs, namely, they’re loudmouth blowhards quick to declare themselves teh jeeenyus, use Wush Wimbuagh as prototype.

Again, I think the AHRQ’s final recommendation is flawed, but I read every page of their report as well as the disclaimer [Disclaimer: Recommendations made by the USPSTF are independent of the U.S. government. They should not be construed as an official position of the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality or the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.]

Nothing here leads me to believe the motives of those involved in the recommendation were politically motivated. Only those who lie due to their lying nature [you, Bob] and/or two-bit wage-slave hacks who likely work directly for some shitty insurance company would consider it so, not forgetting all the other pink-tutu wearing, anti-American dithering, right-wingy losers!

[Ppppp!]

[And yes, I'm using brackets so as to be coolee r-wingy just like Meep troll]

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1) Death panels are an accurate characterization when it’s the government making those decision, thereby leaving people with no other choice in the matter. Palin was right, and so was meep-get over it…

2) Her cost benefit analysis was merely an example-an illustrative exercise for people not skilled in statistical methods…

3) I saw no cowardly personal attacks on her part over the course of this thread. Seems to me that you are tossing about all of the ad homs…

Why are you so intent on trying to bully meep?

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Note how she started out by trying to pimp the low-IQ death panel BS then moderated to cost benefit analysis and then further moderated to simple cowardly personal attacks against those who signed off on that study. Note that I disagreed with the study’s recommendation but read the thing fully and learned a thing or two, and neither did I laughably pretending to know more than the doctors on the task force, unlike our low-wage slave cubicle Queen, which is typical of r-wing loudmouthers.

I think what we have here is a insurance company employee (whore, if you will) [or should I use brackets to keep in Meep troll style] performing a little game of three card monty.

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Yu call out people all the time for crap you can’t back up, and then sling the same lame, “Hannity!, Limbaugh!, Palin”, references around.

So what if the WSJ informed meep’s opinion? It’s a well respected publication and sells more copy daily than the NY Times, and get’s more judicious eye-ball exposure than the times or WaPost! It informs a lot of people’s opinions…

You know, folks read stuff, from many sources, and form opinions based on the facts and evidence…Hmmmmm?

We don’t all embrace the OFA talking points daily or the gospels of Saint Rahm-bo and Goebbles Axelrod, and finish our daily devotion with a hearty, mmmmmmmm, mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm!

Your boy’s teflon shield has ablated son, you all have sown the wind, now get ready to weap the whirlwind!

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